# On converts and the evangelical bubble

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Beriah — Yesterday at 8:20 AM
Unfortunately, people crap on converts a lot. They are wrong to do so and not supported by written law, tradition or Halacha.

exquisite wizard samwise gamzee — Yesterday at 10:39 AM
I remember reading somewhere on tumblr something like "in fact, we don't really WANT you to join" about judaism and converts
and it was a post about how a person could convert but it came with like some kinda heavy disclaimer at the top about how converting is not like christianity's kinda all-odds-welcome approach to it

Beriah — Yesterday at 10:42 AM
So as a general policy Jews don’t seek converts. God doesn’t ask for everyone to be Jewish and being Jewish is considered a set of obligations rather than a reward to be desired.
Related to what I wrote earlier, one might say that Jews welcome converts whose souls will not permit them any other path.

Madison — Yesterday at 10:57 AM
Dang. Makes me realize I've spent most of my life surrounded by a lot of evangelical culture, since I think even a lot of folks around me who weren't evangelical thought that this was just How All Religions Are™ which fits in neatly with the contemporary evangelical narrative.

Beriah — Yesterday at 11:01 AM
I mean a lot of groups seek the Cultural Victory in Civilization, and it’s far from only religious groups
It’s easy to believe that your way is the best way and that getting everyone else to follow your way will prove it.

Madison — Yesterday at 11:07 AM
Right, that makes sense. I guess some of that surprise I'm feeling is because, having been raised angrily atheist, I was taught any other cultural power struggle was not worth thinking about, it was only the religions that were bad about it, and it was all of them.

Friend of the Show Ben Rowe — Yesterday at 3:01 PM
The way the world looks from inside the evangelical bubble and the way it looks outside it are just... Wildly different places.

Madison — Yesterday at 3:04 PM
Yeah, I'm incredibly thankful for places like this to keep me from just continuing on in there, oblivious :P
I'm continually reminded that that's cultural as well as religious. Been watching an atheist youtuber (carefully, mind, though he seems pretty alright so far) who has been talking a lot about how deconstruction goes beyond just the religious aspects.
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