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**Ioan**: Yes. Lots of turmoil around then. Early 2100s, right?
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**Dear**: [nods] Yes. Though it's strange. The turmoil at the time felt very small and personal. While there was all this grand scale stuff going on around us, we were dealing with friends and acquaintances disappearing. There were so few cases at first that it was just this thing the news would publish as a sort of curiosity. "Look! Isn't this strange? The scientists are working so hard!" [laughter] It wasn't until after that the turmoil you're talking about began.
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**Dear**: [nods] Yes. Though it's strange, now that I think about it. The turmoil at the time felt very small and personal. While there was all this grand-scale stuff going on around us, we were dealing with friends and acquaintances disappearing. There were so few cases at first that it was just this thing the news would publish as a sort of curiosity. "Look! Isn't this strange? The scientists are working so hard!" [laughter] It wasn't until after that the turmoil you're talking about began.
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**Ioan**: Okay. Did you upload during?
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**Ioan**: Including the...uh, the owner of the Name?
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**Dear**: [pause, tense] Yes.
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**Dear**: [pause, tense] Yes. In a way.
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**Ioan**: Okay. Back to the uploading side, then. The lost taught you...
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**Dear**: [visibly relaxing] Right, yes. When they came back, many of them --- many of us, for I was briefly among their number --- talked about what we had learned while...uh, in there. The things that we talked about and described are what sent the wonks down new avenues of research, and that eventually led to the first uploading tech. From there, there was the usual "too expensive" hand-wringing, but it all marches on, you know? [laughs] It got cheaper, the tech got better, the L5 station and ansible were set up. Population was getting out of hand again, and some wag decided to pitch uploading as a solution.
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**Dear**: [visibly relaxing] Right, yes. When they came back, many of them --- many of us, for I was briefly among their number --- talked about what we had learned while...uh, in there. The things that we talked about and described are what sent the wonks down new avenues of research, and that eventually led to the first uploading tech. From there, there was the usual "too expensive" hand-wringing, but it all marches on, you know? [laughs] It got cheaper, the tech got better, the L5 station and Ansible were set up. Population was getting out of hand again, and some wag decided to pitch uploading as a solution.
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**Ioan**: I remember that, yeah. The posters were all over the place.
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**Ioan**: It hadn't reached this...post-scarcity, you mean?
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**Dear**: Right. There was still a scarcity of resources and we were still sufficiently...uh, still sufficiently human, perhaps, socially human, that this was used as a lever, a measure of one's class.
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**Dear**: Right. There was still a scarcity of resources and we were still sufficiently...ah, still sufficiently human, perhaps, socially human, that this was used as a lever, a measure of one's class.
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**Ioan**: We still have the markets, though.
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**Ioan**: Alright. Don't suppose you would be able to do what you do today back then.
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**Dear**: Not at all, no. It does still cost some minuscule fraction of credit for one to fork now, but I digress. We began as Michelle and did the things that Michelle did, forking infrequently. This was still a few years before the distinctions between strategies started up. Most everyone was a Tasker back then by virtue of the markets.
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**Dear**: Not at all, no. It does still cost some minuscule portion of credit for one to fork now, but I digress. We began as Michelle and did the things that Michelle did, forking infrequently. This was still a few years before the distinctions between strategies started up. Most everyone was a tasker back then by virtue of the markets.
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**Ioan**: It's hard to picture you as a Tasker.
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**Ioan**: It's hard to picture you as a tasker.
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**Dear**: [laughter] Right, yes. As everything started to get cheaper, though, those distinctions began to emerge. By then, Michelle had a few long-lived instances, tagged as you are, Mx #c1494bf.
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**Ioan**: Not on the lost, no. Just on the founders.
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**Dear**: [frowning] Well, alright. Yes, she played a role, but time softens rough edges, I suppose. Either way, she chose the Ode to name her instances while remaining Michelle, herself. She started with the first lines of each stanza, then let them create and name their own forks from there.
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**Dear**: [frowning] Well, alright. Yes, she played a role, but time softens rough edges, I suppose. Either way, the things she did gave her enough reputation to fork, and she chose the Ode to name her instances while remaining Michelle, herself. She started with the first lines of each stanza, then let them create and name their own forks from there.
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**Ioan**: Thus the limited Dispersionista style.
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**Ioan**: Thus the limited dispersionista style.
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**Dear**: [nodding] Right. Each stanza became a small family of Taskers, in a way. We, the Odists, create our own forks as needed, but don't let them live long. Or aren't supposed to, at least.
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**Dear**: [nodding] Right. Each stanza became a small family of taskers, in a way. We, the Odists, create our own forks as needed, but don't let them live long. Or aren't supposed to, at least.
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**Ioan**: "Aren't supposed to"?
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**Ioan**: Have you?
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**Dear**: [smiling, shrugging, mu-gesture] By virtue of our set-up, though, such forks are not members of the clade. Those forks are not named as such, and likely not in communication with any other cocladists aside from their down-tree instance.
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**Dear**: [smiling, shrugging, mu-gesture] By virtue of our set-up, though, such forks are not members of the clade. Those forks are not named as such, and likely not in communication with any other cocladists aside from their immediate down-tree instance.
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**Ioan**: Is the Ode available somewhere for me to read?
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**Ioan**: Ever?
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**Dear**: [nodding] Ever. Some Dispersionistas are families. I mentioned the Jonas clade before; Jonas Prime has set up regular intraclade communication. Some are just clades, defined by ancestry with no further connections.
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**Dear**: [nodding] Ever. Some dispersionistas are families. I mentioned the Jonas clade before; Jonas Prime has set up regular intraclade communication. Some are just clades, defined by ancestry with no further connections.
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**Ioan**: Are you in touch with any of your cocladists?
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**Ioan**: And how do you feel about seeing the whole clade together?
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**Dear**: I would be surprised if we manage to net all of them. [laughter] But I suppose I feel excited. Not necessarily because I have never met so many of them so much as because it feels like we as a clade have a goal in front of us. Seeing them is secondary to them --- to us --- actually doing something. Accomplishing something.
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**Dear**: I would be surprised if we manage to net all of them. [laughter] But I suppose I feel excited. Not necessarily because I have never met many of them so much as because it feels like we as a clade have a goal in front of us. Seeing them is secondary to them --- to us --- actually doing something. Accomplishing something.
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**Ioan**: And what do you hope to get out of it? This gathering?
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