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## Non-Post-Self version
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## Non-Post-Self version
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* [.] [Intro](mfa/intro)
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* [o] [Intro](mfa/intro)
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* [ ] [Layers](mfa/layers)
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* [.] [Layers](mfa/layers) (intro done)
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* [ ] [Physical/practical](mfa/section-practical)
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* [.] [Physical/practical](mfa/section-practical)
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* [ ] [Communities](mfa/communities)
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* [o] [Communities](mfa/communities)
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* [ ] [Hierarchies](mfa/hierarchies)
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* [.] [Hierarchies](mfa/hierarchies)
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* [ ] [The Kingdom of Heaven](mfa/kingdom)
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* [ ] [The Kingdom of Heaven](mfa/kingdom)
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* [ ] [Intellectual](mfa/section-intellectual)
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* [ ] [Intellectual](mfa/section-intellectual)
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* [ ] [Frameworks](mfa/frameworks)
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* [ ] [Frameworks](mfa/frameworks)
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Opposite complementarianism is egalitarianism, wherein all are considered equal. This is, of course, a spectrum. There are some denominations which hold to the idea that only men may hold ministerial positions, but otherwise there is little difference seen between men and woman. There are some denominations which allow both men and woman to exist in ministerial roles and yet maintain the strict hierarchy of spiritual roles: God, the church, senior pastor, associate pastor, congregation. Even within Quakerism,[^hicksite] a notably non-hierarchical faith with no pastor and all able to take part in vocal ministry, there is still a difference between members and attenders, there is still a clerk of the monthly meeting, and there is still the layers of yearly meeting (a large region), a quarterly meeting (a smaller region within the larger yearly meeting), a monthly meeting (which gathers on Sundays for meeting for worship), and then committees. Even in the most egalitarian of settings, some hierarchy is needed in order to stay organized.
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Opposite complementarianism is egalitarianism, wherein all are considered equal. This is, of course, a spectrum. There are some denominations which hold to the idea that only men may hold ministerial positions, but otherwise there is little difference seen between men and woman. There are some denominations which allow both men and woman to exist in ministerial roles and yet maintain the strict hierarchy of spiritual roles: God, the church, senior pastor, associate pastor, congregation. Even within Quakerism,[^hicksite] a notably non-hierarchical faith with no pastor and all able to take part in vocal ministry, there is still a difference between members and attenders, there is still a clerk of the monthly meeting, and there is still the layers of yearly meeting (a large region), a quarterly meeting (a smaller region within the larger yearly meeting), a monthly meeting (which gathers on Sundays for meeting for worship), and then committees. Even in the most egalitarian of settings, some hierarchy is needed in order to stay organized.
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I'm not sure that I see many areas in which this might change because of that. For many mainline denominations and evangelicals, this is a practical aspect born out of their theologies. God created man and from him he created woman, did He not? This is built into their faith in a very real sense, and the complementary aspects that they see in men and women would not be changed by having uploaded. Ditto for egalitarian movements, which must still be organized, if they're to get anything done.
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[^binaries]: I speak in binaries here because complementarianism rarely approves of non-binary identities. This goes beyond gender, and also the scope of what I'm aiming to describe.
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[^binaries]: I speak in binaries here because complementarianism rarely approves of non-binary identities. This goes beyond gender, and also the scope of what I'm aiming to describe.
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[^hicksite]: I'm using Quakerism here to refer specifically to Hicksite Quakerism, which follows the pattern described. There are also conservative and evangelical Quaker denominations which follow a more traditional protestant pattern, often to the point where they are indistinguishable from other mainline protestant or evangelical churches.
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[^hicksite]: I'm using Quakerism here to refer specifically to Hicksite Quakerism, which follows the pattern described. There are also conservative and evangelical Quaker denominations which follow a more traditional protestant pattern, often to the point where they are indistinguishable from other mainline protestant or evangelical churches.
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"Sounds painful," ey said, laughing. "That's a new one."
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"Sounds painful," ey said, laughing. "That's a new one."
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"Add it to the list," she said after she was able to get at least a few lapping sips of her voice
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"Add it to the list," she said after she was able to get at least a few lapping sips of her voice so soon [after](after)
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(( Etc etc, they're cute and gay, she licks eir chest and says she's glad ey has skin instead of fur, so they talk about furry, which leads to her talking about why TN stayed skunk, then why May did, Ioan brings up the fact that she spent a year in her human form a while back, etc ))
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(( Etc etc, they're cute and gay, she licks eir chest and says she's glad ey has skin instead of fur, so they talk about furry, which leads to her talking about why TN stayed skunk, then why May did, Ioan brings up the fact that she spent a year in her human form a while back, etc ))
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* Sefaria: When you make a vow to your God יהוה, do not put off fulfilling it, for your God יהוה will require it of you, and you will have incurred guilt; whereas you incur no guilt if you refrain from vowing. You must fulfill what has crossed your lips and perform what you have voluntarily vowed to your God יהוה, having made the promise with your own mouth.
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* Sefaria: When you make a vow to your God יהוה, do not put off fulfilling it, for your God יהוה will require it of you, and you will have incurred guilt; whereas you incur no guilt if you refrain from vowing. You must fulfill what has crossed your lips and perform what you have voluntarily vowed to your God יהוה, having made the promise with your own mouth.
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* Alter: Should you make a fow to the Lord your God, you shall not delay fulfilling it, for the Lord your God will surely require it of you and there would be an offense in you. And you should refrain from making a vow, there will be no offense in you. The utterance of your lips you shall keep, and you shall do as you have vowed in the Lord your God, the freewill gift that you spoke with your mouth.
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* Alter: Should you make a fow to the Lord your God, you shall not delay fulfilling it, for the Lord your God will surely require it of you and there would be an offense in you. And you should refrain from making a vow, there will be no offense in you. The utterance of your lips you shall keep, and you shall do as you have vowed in the Lord your God, the freewill gift that you spoke with your mouth.
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* [.] Conversation --- Ioan's been hanging out with TN, May is actively working on letting go, and has gotten to the point of being cordial, polite, occasionally kind
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* [.] Conversation --- Ioan's been hanging out with TN, May is actively working on letting go, and has gotten to the point of being cordial, polite, occasionally kind
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* [.] CHAPTER Ioan 2349
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* [o] CHAPTER Ioan 2349
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* [o] [Coffee date - Nov 2349](001) --- Ioan and TN get coffee, which they've been doing about once a month or so for a few years now.
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* [o] [Coffee date - Nov 2349](001) --- Ioan and TN get coffee, which they've been doing about once a month or so for a few years now.
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* [o] [May's monologue, Ioan's critique](002) --- May's writing a monologue, so she delivers what she has to Ioan who offers a critique. It's about her own history, so they get to talking about her past.
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* [o] [May's monologue, Ioan's critique](002) --- May's writing a monologue, so she delivers what she has to Ioan who offers a critique. It's about her own history, so they get to talking about her past.
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* [ ] [Coffee date - Dec 2349](003) --- Ioan talks about adapting *Perils* for stage, gets to talking with TN about the conservatives' side, realizes TN#Castor never told her about the Name business
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* [o] [Coffee date - Dec 2349](003) --- Ioan talks about adapting *Perils* for stage, gets to talking with TN about the conservatives' side, realizes TN#Castor never told her about the Name business
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* [ ] [Meet Cute](004) --- Ioan and May talk about how much they wind up talking about TN; Ioan, on a whim, heads out for a walk at Arrowhead, conversation with TN about how much they wind up talking about May; ey draws conclusions about how much they think still think about each other
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* [.] [Meet Cute](004) --- Ioan and May talk about how much they wind up talking about TN; Ioan, on a whim, heads out for a walk at Arrowhead, conversation with TN about how much they wind up talking about May; ey draws conclusions about how much they think still think about each other
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* [.] CHAPTER Debarre? 2350
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* [.] CHAPTER Debarre? 2350
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* [o] [Something innocent](005) --- something innocent to break it up a bit. Debarre and End Waking being *really* furry, maybe? Rebuilding the rammed earth back wall of the tent? Maybe a flood took the old one out?
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* [o] [Something innocent](005) --- something innocent to break it up a bit. Debarre and End Waking being *really* furry, maybe? Rebuilding the rammed earth back wall of the tent? Maybe a flood took the old one out?
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* [ ] [May's No Way 1]() --- Still resentful of TN, discusses with Debarre, hints at considering EW merging down.
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* [ ] [May's No Way 1]() --- Still resentful of TN, discusses with Debarre, hints at considering EW merging down.
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