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@@ -201,6 +201,16 @@ At the time, however, I said, "Have you found stillness in your endeavors so far
 
 "That being the reason you did not feel the joy that you wanted?"
 
-She nodded. "Yes. My thoughts became ordered, perhaps. That turbulence became a purposeful movement; rather than a stormy ocean, they were a river.
+She nodded. "Yes. My thoughts became ordered, perhaps. That turbulence became a purposeful movement; rather than a stormy ocean, they were a river."
+
+"I am sorry to say that I do not think my books would be any different."
+
+"Oh, they are not," she said, chuckling. "They are quite good, of course, but they are hardly meditative."
+
+I laughed as well. "Thank you, I think. I have a few that are labeled 'meditations on whatever', but even those probably do not fit the bill."
+
+"I would assume not. No, I came to you because I wanted to talk to you about creating."
+
+
 
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