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 <li>More little details like that, the more real it seems.</li>
 <li>What do brushes look like? One per species? Different universal types? Brushmasters?</li>
 <li>Tattoos? Clothes?</li>
-<li>Languages? Do we call them paws? &ldquo;On the other hand&rdquo;/&rdquo;hand me that&rdquo;/&rdquo;hand me downs&rdquo; - received language (things used all the time without thinking about), good to catch on editing, but also keep in mind while writing. Line between making it interesting/intrusive</li>
+<li>Languages?<ul>
+<li>Do we call them paws? &ldquo;On the other hand&rdquo;/&rdquo;hand me that&rdquo;/&rdquo;hand me downs&rdquo;</li>
+<li>received language (things used all the time without thinking about), good to catch on editing, but also keep in mind while writing. Line between making it interesting/intrusive</li>
+<li>Swears reveal a lot about what&rsquo;s taboo, characterizes the character that&rsquo;s saying them (are they irreverent? sexy?); elided curses, substitutions (heck, cheese-and-rice, etc)</li>
+<li>Specific content but with neutral vocabulary</li>
+<li>That said, universality in language can also help readers identify with characters</li>
+<li>sure, jargon is a thing, but it&rsquo;s a choice, and also there should be context-clues to help users pick up on them. Lets reader see the characters interact with the world</li>
+</ul>
+</li>
 </ul>
 </li>
 <li>While writing:<ul>
@@ -78,6 +86,36 @@
 <li>Not everything has to be 100% on point, can still have fun so that your readers have fun</li>
 </ul>
 </li>
+<li>Zipperbacks:<ul>
+<li>Scent (a cloth at the entrance to the house where characters were to touch it so folks could smell who was in the house)</li>
+<li>Paws</li>
+<li>Shedding</li>
+<li>Furries are part of the thing that is different, good to show (would nocturnal species neighborhoods have streetlights?)</li>
+<li>What does your character consider normal vs rest of the world? How do the rankle, how are they accommodated?</li>
+<li>Everyday needs - periods? Sexual preference and drive? Estrus, is there a pill to knock it down?</li>
+<li>Family is important (armadillos always have four identical quadruplets because of the way pregnancy works in the species)</li>
+<li>Species obviously does a lot of work</li>
+<li>Kiri:<ul>
+<li>what species thrive in abandoned spaces?</li>
+<li>What happens to population if dogs keep having litters?</li>
+</ul>
+</li>
+<li>Kyell:<ul>
+<li>large litter sizes are a hedge against population stresses - increased survival = smaller litter/family sizes</li>
+<li>How did these societies come out (consider evolution/uplifting reasons)</li>
+<li>The extent to which you bring things over into the furry world (chairs vs sexuality, e.g) can simply be down to what you enjoy, and your readers can work with that (or ask you weird questions)</li>
+<li>Predators vs prey (Beastars)</li>
+</ul>
+</li>
+<li>Dayna:<ul>
+<li>There&rsquo;s an element of excision, you can also take things out</li>
+<li>Sure, there&rsquo;s sexuality and desire and biological imperatives, but the rest of our lives are not based around that.</li>
+<li>Vestigial elements - heat, rut, knots, etc, but not litters maybe</li>
+<li>There&rsquo;s a draw to the inate urges, but you can build yourself a loophole</li>
+</ul>
+</li>
+</ul>
+</li>
 </ul>
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