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<li class="done2"> <a href="interlude/002.html">Interlude</a> — Ioan and May (who indeed have a cry) discuss how it feels to know that the talks are taking place and may be over by the time they hear about it - 3319</li>
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<li class="done2"> <a href="interlude/002.html">Interlude</a> — Ioan and May (who indeed have a cry) discuss how it feels to know that the talks are taking place and may be over by the time they hear about it - 3319</li>
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<li class="done2"> <a href="local/tycho/009.html">Tycho Brahe#Artemis</a> — Talks with Sarah Genet about what the two parties are learning and how its impacting his view of the System and Artemis - 1920</li>
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<li class="done2"> <a href="local/tycho/009.html">Tycho Brahe#Artemis</a> — Talks with Sarah Genet about what the two parties are learning and how its impacting his view of the System and Artemis - 1920</li>
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<li class="done2"> <a href="remote/tycho/002.html">Tycho Brahe#Emissary</a> — Watches TN try to have a discussion with Turun Ka regarding history, and it is an exercise in mutual misunderstanding, starting to feel out of his league with #Emissary being about social aspects - 1725</li>
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<li class="done2"> <a href="remote/tycho/002.html">Tycho Brahe#Emissary</a> — Watches TN try to have a discussion with Turun Ka regarding history, and it is an exercise in mutual misunderstanding, starting to feel out of his league with #Emissary being about social aspects - 1725</li>
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<li class="done0"> <a href="local/codrin/009.html">Codrin Bălan#Artemis</a> — After watching similar discussion of TN misunderstanding, meets up with Sarah Genet over break, discusses note from Codrin#Emissary (day 3 lunch)</li>
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<li class="done0"> <a href="local/codrin/009.html">Codrin Bălan#Artemis</a> — After watching similar discussion of TN misunderstanding, meets up with Sarah Genet over break, discusses note from Codrin#Emissary (day 3 lunch) - 2251</li>
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<li class="done0"> <a href="remote/codrin/004.html">Codrin Bălan#Emissary</a> — Talks about current status during break, suggests ideas to Tycho about what he could be paying attention to re: politics/society/history in terms of the stars, leads to question of whether there were others that they’ve met along the way but didn’t join them arising, but told not to ask yet</li>
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<li class="done0"> <a href="remote/codrin/004.html">Codrin Bălan#Emissary</a> — Talks about current status during break, suggests ideas to Tycho about what he could be paying attention to re: politics/society/history in terms of the stars, leads to question of whether there were others that they’ve met along the way but didn’t join them arising, but told not to ask yet</li>
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<li class="done0"> <a href="local/tycho/010.html">Tycho Brahe#Artemis</a> — Compares utility differences between forking/time manipulation (mostly Tycho, but also TN/WAQ) (day 3 after lunch)</li>
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<li class="done0"> <a href="local/tycho/010.html">Tycho Brahe#Artemis</a> — Compares utility differences between forking/time manipulation (mostly Tycho, but also TN/WAQ) (day 3 after lunch)</li>
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<li class="done0"> <a href="remote/codrin/005.html">Codrin Bălan#Emissary</a> — Compares political differences between forking/time manipulation (Mostly TN, but Codrin/Sarah), AWNH is acting strange</li>
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<li class="done0"> <a href="remote/codrin/005.html">Codrin Bălan#Emissary</a> — Compares political differences between forking/time manipulation (Mostly TN, but Codrin/Sarah), AWNH is acting strange</li>
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<p>(True Name tries to guide the talks toward simply finding out more information thinking of gaining the upper hand to prepare for some sort of exchange or power imbalance, then simply to tries maintaining control over the situation, but for once, she’s out of her league. Their goal is basically ensuring greater continuity of all races (similar to TN/Jonas’s stated goals, stated later))</p>
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<p>(True Name tries to guide the talks toward simply finding out more information thinking of gaining the upper hand to prepare for some sort of exchange or power imbalance, then simply to tries maintaining control over the situation, but for once, she’s out of her league. Their goal is basically ensuring greater continuity of all races (similar to TN/Jonas’s stated goals, stated later))</p>
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<p>All throughout, though, Codrin couldn’t shake the image of True Name throwing a very short, very tightly controlled tantrum. The sight of her letting loose so strong an emotion had immediately knocked em back to an interview decades ago, now, where she’d wound em up enough that ey’d started shouting at her in her own office, then bounced em from her sim.</p>
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<p>All throughout, though, Codrin couldn’t shake the image of True Name throwing a very short, very tightly controlled tantrum. The sight of her letting loose so strong an emotion had immediately knocked em back to an interview decades ago, now, where she’d wound em up enough that ey’d started shouting at her in her own office, then bounced em from her sim.</p>
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<p>That, ey’d later surmised, had been intentional on her part. It had been a way for her to spin her story in a very carefully crafted way. It set it to a level that sat just on the other side of the line between plausible and absurd. It’d wrapped em up in a story that was just a little too much to be believe, and the end result was a softening of the impact of the <em>History</em>.</p>
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<p>That, ey’d later surmised, had been intentional on her part. It had been a way for her to spin her story in a very carefully crafted way. It set it to a level that sat just on the other side of the line between plausible and absurd. It’d wrapped em up in a story that was just a little too much to be believe, and the end result was a softening of the impact of the <em>History</em>.</p>
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<p>Nothing about that experience had been done with a wink and a nudge, just as nothing about this had contained any such acknowledgement that it was intentional, but ey was nothing if not primed to expect her actions to be based in manipulation. There was a non-zero chance that this tantrum had been more for the benefit of the other delegates than anything. It was a way to show that she, too, was frustrated, just as the pun-off that had followed had been a way to loosen everyone up by lampshading the absurdity of the whole venture.</p>
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<p>Nothing about that experience had been done with a wink and a nudge, just as nothing about this had contained any such acknowledgement that it was intentional, but ey was nothing if not primed to expect her actions to be based in manipulation. There was a non-zero chance that this tantrum had been more for the benefit of the other delegates than anything. It was a way to show that she, too, was frustrated, just as the pun-off that had followed had been a way to loosen everyone up by lampshading the absurdity of the whole venture.</p>
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<p>After watching similar discussion of TN misunderstanding, meets up with Sarah Genet over break, discusses note from Codrin#Emissary</p>
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<p>And then, it was over. True Name cleared away her plate, explained that she was going to write a letter to her #Emissary instance, made a final joke about needing to do so over letters being much more up Codrin’s alley, and then stepped into her room to work in silence.</p>
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<p>“What was that about?” Sarah asked, once the skunk and Why Ask Questions had wandered off again.</p>
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<p>“What, the thing about the letters?” Ey shrugged. “I guess it was deemed a risk setting up radio between the DMZ and–“</p>
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<p>“No, no,” she said, shaking her head. “Sorry, I mean, what was with the scream and then all the jokes?”</p>
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<p>Ey frowned and set up another cone of silence for the two of them. “I was just thinking about that, actually. I was wondering if she really is frustrated enough to scream or if it was intentional to make her seem more normal like the rest of us mere mortals.”</p>
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<p>“I don’t think it was that extreme. Maybe some part of her was trying to build camaraderie with us by doing so, but I’m wondering if it was more that she was trying to downplay the news from Artemis.”</p>
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<p>Codrin sat up straighter. “Wait, you mean the Odists struggling over there?”</p>
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<p>She nodded. “It sounds like moving them to a unison room is helping, but they’re still struggling with that…what did Codrin#Emissary call it? The omnipresence of time?”</p>
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<p>“Yes. Dear had talked about it some. It called the feeling of being lost as being stuck in an ‘endless place of no time’.”</p>
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<p>“I was going to call that poetic, but the more I think about it, the less I think I could describe it without a whole lot of metaphors, myself.” She pushed a few remaining pieces of lettuce around her plate with her fork. “I was wondering if maybe she’s trying to hide how she’s feeling about that by amping up other emotions. Hiding trauma with humor is not uncommon.”</p>
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<p>Ey frowned. “It would make sense, yes. This morning’s letter from Codrin talked a bit more about them, about how they seem to be struggling in masking more powerful emotions. “I don’t think I’ve ever seen an Odist well and truly furious,” ey said, which I agree with. I’ve seen Dear angry, and Ioan says that ey’s seen May Then My Name get furious — at True Name, of all people — but I’ve never seen any of them truly furious. “True Name keeps getting these flashes, though, where her face will twist up in what I can only call abject fury. It’ll only last a second or so, and then it’s over and she’s back to looking tired or in control or whatever she was before”.”</p>
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<p>“Anger is a strong emotion. It’s hard to cover up something that overwhelming.”</p>
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<p>“Right. Anger and sadness or depression seem to be the two that keep cropping up. They’ve had to take a few breaks so far when Why Ask Questions wound up in a crying jag.”</p>
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<p>She shook her head. “I’ve not heard anything from my #Emissary instance, which is fine, but I wonder how she would describe it.”</p>
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<p>“Want me to ask? I was going to send off a note before we started back up again.”</p>
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<p>“Sure, yeah. I was going to do it myself, but if you’re already sending one, might as well tack it on there, instead.”</p>
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<p>Ey nodded and scratched out a note to emself in eir notebook. “Before I get to that, though, I have a question for you. Something before I drop the cone, I mean.”</p>
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<p>Sarah leaned forward, elbows on her knees, and ey did the same. The added secrecy of talking quieter was a difficult habit to break, and eir mind was still on the topic of lip-reading from earlier.</p>
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<p>“#Emissary hinted at something and I’m not quite sure what to make of it. That ey’s even hinting at it rather than just saying it outright is telling in and of itself, of course, but I can see why, given the context. The messages are clade-eyes-only, so others can’t read them unless one of us grants permission, anyway. It’s only a hint, but I think ey’s suggesting that it’s not Why Ask Questions on Artemis, but Answers Will Not Help.”</p>
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<p>The psychologist frowned down toward the floor. “What form did this hint take?”</p>
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<p>Ey dredged up the memory of the postscript, saying, “Can you also check my work with Dear? I think I remember that Why Ask Questions was initially forked to shape sentiment sys-side during Secession, and that Answers Will Not Help was forked to shape sentiment outside the System. Is this correct? I’ve only met the two of them recently, so I’m unsure how that plays out in their social interactions.”</p>
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<p>“Anything in subsequent letters?”</p>
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<p>“Well, Codrin#Assist confirmed it, saying, “Dear says that’s correct. Why Ask Questions worked sys-side, Answers Will Not Help worked phys-side”. Neither #Emissary nor I have brought it up again since.”</p>
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<p>“You obviously know your communication style better than anyone else, but do you think ey’s hinting at the fact that they were switched specifically for their roles? Intra- and extra-system sentiment?”</p>
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<p>Ey nodded.</p>
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<p>“Well, that’d be a hell of a stunt to pull.” She sighed, steepling her fingers before her. “I could only really tell them apart by the way they acted, but, like you, I only met them a week or so ago. Is ey sure that it’s not just due to the way the skew is impacting them?”</p>
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<p>“I don’t know, really, but given that a good chunk of the rest of the letter, as well as subsequent ones, has been about that impact and the effects its having on the meetings, I don’t doubt eir observations.”</p>
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<p>There was a moment of silence as they both digested the conversation. They still had a few minutes of time left, if ey still wanted to write eir note, so ey allowed the moment to stretch.</p>
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<p>Finally, Sarah said, “I guess I have a few thoughts on it: the first is that Answers Will Not Help struck me as a bit…I don’t know, less grounded than Why Ask Questions. They’re both weird, but Answers Will Not Help was always much more intense, and she occasionally got kind of mean. The second was that maybe we could ask Tycho. We got a few days with the two of them, but he’s been working with them for much longer, since they led with a bunch of science.”</p>
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<p>“Alright,” ey said, scratching out another quick note to emself. “I’ll figure out a way to ask if that’s where the observation came from.”</p>
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<p>“Oh? As in maybe Tycho noticed that and told Codrin#Emissary?”</p>
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<p>“Right, yeah. Maybe he picked up on it first because he’s had more time with her, or maybe her reaction to the skew tipped him off. Why knows?”</p>
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<p>“Think you’ll ask in a hint, too?”</p>
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<p>Ey nodded. “There’s some subtext there that I’m not totally picking up on, and it seems best to be safer than not.”</p>
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<p>“Any guesses as to that subtext?” she asked.</p>
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<p>“Only incomplete ones. I wonder if it’s to keep Codrin#Assist from reading too much into it since ey’s not experiencing any of this other than the briefest glimpses at Why Ask Questions when ey brings the mail.”</p>
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<p>“And you’re worried ey might bring it up with the Odists?”</p>
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<p>Ey laughed, shaking eir head. “Nothing so grand. It’s just hard for us to leave well enough alone. Ey’d probably start cataloging the differences between them. Well, ey probably already is, given the hint, but without the context that we’re seeing here, it’ll be somewhat less pointed.”</p>
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<p>“Right, that makes sense. That still seems a little flimsy for a reason to be this vague of a hint.”</p>
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<p>“Agreed,” ey said, then shrugged. “Could be that ey just doesn’t trust that clade-eyes-only works on Artemis. All the same, I’ll hint back and see what comes of it, just to be safe.”</p>
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<p>She grinned. “Alright. Keep me up to date, I guess.”</p>
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<p>Codrin dropped the cone of silence and stretched eir arms up over eir head, “I’ll see you in there in a few, then. Thanks for chatting.”</p>
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<p>Sarah stood, waved, and wandered back into the room, leaving em to brush out eir tunic and straighten the apron that rested over eir skirt before starting the note.</p>
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<p>Not a whole lot to add here on my part, and I need to get back to it momentarily, so just a quick note for now. There’s been some talk on biology and a bit more on astronomy. This always gets Tycho super excited, of course, so we have to space the topic out so that he and Stolon don’t completely monopolize the meeting.</p>
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<p>The most pertinent thing of late has been some discussion over language and how that has changed over time based on the physiology of the races. Iska spoke some “old Nanon” for us, which was beautiful, but almost uncanny. I’d keep almost catching words, but then they’d slip away from me again. Why Ask Questions understood better, and was able to ask some questions about linguistic evolution. Most of those went over my head, but she seemed surprised at how little things had changed over that long a time span, which got us on the topic of the history and politics of language. That was cut off since that’s your bailiwick up there, so I expect TN will be getting a note to that effect.</p>
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<p>I hope things with the Odists are going as smoothly as possible. It sounds really stressful, particularly with how it’s affecting WAQ. You mentioned that Sarah’s been keeping an eye on it, but how about Tycho? I know he can get kind of skittish. He’s also been around those two longer than any of us, though, so maybe he’s got some insight into it.</p>
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<p>Codrin#Assist, pass on my love. Pull Dear’s tail for me.</p>
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