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<li class="done3"> Part III - Acceleration (Conspiracies start to pick up)<ul>
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<li class="done3"> Part III - Acceleration (Conspiracies start to pick up)<ul>
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<li class="done4"> <a href="launch/launch/Codrin-pollux/003.html">Launch: launch-side: Codrin#Pollux</a> - interviews Zeke/Ezekiel, who has gone a bit sideways, now a prophet, having a hard time reconciling two launches/diverging futures, points Codrin towards True Name as something sinister - 2212 - Expand?</li>
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<li class="done4"> <a href="launch/launch/Codrin-pollux/003.html">Launch: launch-side: Codrin#Pollux</a> - interviews Zeke/Ezekiel, who has gone a bit sideways, now a prophet, having a hard time reconciling two launches/diverging futures, points Codrin towards True Name as something sinister - 2212 - Expand?</li>
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<li class="done4"> <a href="secession/phys/Yared/005.html">Secession: phys-side; Yared</a> - discusses secession with True Name/Jonas despite the fact that he isn’t supposed to, gets help drafting the post with suggested changes from Demma - 2852</li>
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<li class="done4"> <a href="secession/phys/Yared/005.html">Secession: phys-side; Yared</a> - discusses secession with True Name/Jonas despite the fact that he isn’t supposed to, gets help drafting the post with suggested changes from Demma - 2852</li>
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<li class="done3"> <a href="launch/launch/Codrin-castor/004.html">Launch: launch-side: Codrin#Castor</a> - Distracted, interviews depressed astronomer who knows this is as close as he’ll ever get, but studies all the same through text, learn more about Dreamer Module (phys-side idea that got past resistance sys-side, implied Jonas/True Name) - 3680</li>
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<li class="done4"> <a href="launch/launch/Codrin-castor/004.html">Launch: launch-side: Codrin#Castor</a> - Distracted, interviews depressed astronomer who knows this is as close as he’ll ever get, but studies all the same through text, learn more about Dreamer Module (phys-side idea that got past resistance sys-side, implied Jonas/True Name) - 3680</li>
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<li class="done3"> <a href="launch/phys/Douglas/006.html">Launch: phys-side: Douglas</a> - Talks with May about launch-era political machinations from phys-side - 2140</li>
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<li class="done3"> <a href="launch/phys/Douglas/006.html">Launch: phys-side: Douglas</a> - Talks with May about launch-era political machinations from phys-side - 2140</li>
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<li class="done3"> <a href="secession/sys/True-Name/003.html">Secession: sys-side: True Name</a> - Starts to think of phys/sys dichotomy in political terms, forks on the sly (only Jonas knows), so that forks can handle both, leaving her as figurehead who appears to know all - 2765</li>
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<li class="done3"> <a href="secession/sys/True-Name/003.html">Secession: sys-side: True Name</a> - Starts to think of phys/sys dichotomy in political terms, forks on the sly (only Jonas knows), so that forks can handle both, leaving her as figurehead who appears to know all - 2765</li>
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<li class="done3"> <a href="launch/launch/Codrin-pollux/004.html">Launch: launch-side: Codrin#Pollux</a> - talks with Dear about secession and the mood before and after in general, but also w/in clade, Dear hints that Praiseworthy started shaping the history even before secession and the art of propaganda - 2265</li>
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<li class="done3"> <a href="launch/launch/Codrin-pollux/004.html">Launch: launch-side: Codrin#Pollux</a> - talks with Dear about secession and the mood before and after in general, but also w/in clade, Dear hints that Praiseworthy started shaping the history even before secession and the art of propaganda - 2265</li>
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<p>“I worked with a team of scientists, a few of whom were station-side and the rest of whom were planet-side. All lovely folks, of course. They tried to come up with some pithy acronym for the module, but some bit of news called them ‘hopeless dreamers’, and the name stuck from there.</p>
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<p>“I worked with a team of scientists, a few of whom were station-side and the rest of whom were planet-side. All lovely folks, of course. They tried to come up with some pithy acronym for the module, but some bit of news called them ‘hopeless dreamers’, and the name stuck from there.</p>
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<p>“We basically nailed down the instrumentation that would go into the module, then built up its structure from there. Only some of it is telescopes, you understand. There are also various packages for measuring the cosmic microwave background radiation, ones for measuring ambient temperature variations, all the normal stuff. There’s also a secondary generator in there, I suppose to ensure that neither the module nor the station impact each other.</p>
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<p>“We basically nailed down the instrumentation that would go into the module, then built up its structure from there. Only some of it is telescopes, you understand. There are also various packages for measuring the cosmic microwave background radiation, ones for measuring ambient temperature variations, all the normal stuff. There’s also a secondary generator in there, I suppose to ensure that neither the module nor the station impact each other.</p>
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<p>“Anyhow, that’s not the story part. The story part is that we got halfway done with the planning of the module and were just starting to spin up all the work to build the components, and we suddenly ran into a bunch of pushback. A lot of it was the usual grumbling about costs, even though most of it was to be manufactured at the station. Some of it was tied in with the voices that wanted to keep the launch from happening in the first place. If ever there was such a thing as an anti-dreamer, it was them. They felt that to make a dream a reality was somehow wrong. I never understood their arguments.</p>
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<p>“Anyhow, that’s not the story part. The story part is that we got halfway done with the planning of the module and were just starting to spin up all the work to build the components, and we suddenly ran into a bunch of pushback. A lot of it was the usual grumbling about costs, even though most of it was to be manufactured at the station. Some of it was tied in with the voices that wanted to keep the launch from happening in the first place. If ever there was such a thing as an anti-dreamer, it was them. They felt that to make a dream a reality was somehow wrong. I never understood their arguments.</p>
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<p>“The last bit of friction, and the most interesting bit, I suppose, came from sys-side. Their arguments were plainly insincere, though I never could divine their true concerns. They said that the added complexity to the LVs put the integrity of the systems within at risk beyond some imagined tolerance. It didn’t bear up to even the slightest scrutiny, but they seemed to have loud voices.”</p>
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<p>“The last bit of friction, and the most interesting bit, I suppose, came from sys-side. Their arguments were plainly insincere, though I never could figure out their true concerns. They said that the added complexity to the LVs put the integrity of the systems within at risk beyond some imagined tolerance. It didn’t bear up to even the slightest scrutiny, but they seemed to have loud voices.”</p>
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<p>Codrin frowned. “Most everyone I talked to was as ambivalent about the launch as they were about most phys-side projects, though I fully acknowledge that we run in different circles. There was an initial flush of excitement as it was announced, and most everyone I’ve talked to here said they’d made up their minds to go along on the launches even then, two decades back. It calmed down after as many forgot, but then ramped up before launch.”</p>
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<p>Codrin frowned. “Most everyone I talked to was as ambivalent about the launch as they were about most phys-side projects, though I fully acknowledge that we run in different circles. There was an initial flush of excitement as it was announced, and most everyone I’ve talked to here said they’d made up their minds to go along on the launches even then, two decades back. It calmed down after as many forgot, but then ramped up before launch.”</p>
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<p>“Yes, I felt much of the same in my circle, though you must understand that we were working on the launches for all of those two decades, so our excitement was bound to how well the project was going. We were spending so much time talking with phys-side, hearing all their gossip about the sentiment out there, and both sides were surprised when we started to have serious conversations about the sentiment sys-side when those arguments started to get louder.</p>
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<p>“Yes, I felt much of the same in my circle, though you must understand that we were working on the launches for all of those two decades, so our excitement was bound to how well the project was going. We were spending so much time talking with phys-side, hearing all their gossip about the sentiment out there, and both sides were surprised when we started to have serious conversations about the sentiment sys-side when those arguments started to get louder.</p>
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<p>“At first, it was just the occasional opinion column in the feeds, but the actual news started to pick up on it soon after, and then there were a few debates. I don’t think it ever got to the point where the module was at risk, but people are still talking about whether it was a good idea, I hear.”</p>
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<p>“At first, it was just the occasional opinion column in the feeds, but the actual news started to pick up on it soon after, and then there were a few debates. I don’t think it ever got to the point where the module was at risk, but people are still talking about whether it was a good idea, I hear.”</p>
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<p>“What about who was having those arguments.”</p>
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<p>“What about who was having those arguments.”</p>
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<p>“That’s the thing, there were relatively few voices from those who had uploaded recently. Most of those who started the arguments were from the first few decades of the System’s creation. I suspect that at least part of their concern is that they still feel somewhat upset at having to pay to join, some of them dearly so, but even that doesn’t feel like the whole reason. It was just all these super old uploads, both individuals and clades, who seemed less than thrilled at the prospect. Founder types, you understand.”</p>
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<p>“That’s the thing, there were relatively few voices from those who had uploaded recently. Most of those who started the arguments were from the first few decades of the System’s creation. I suspect that at least part of their concern is that they still feel somewhat upset at having to pay to join, some of them dearly so, but even that doesn’t feel like the whole reason. It was just all these super old uploads, both individuals and clades, who seemed less than thrilled at the prospect. Founder types, you understand.”</p>
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<p>Eir frown grew. “Do you remember any names?”</p>
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<p>Eir frown grew. “Do you remember any names?”</p>
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<p>“The Jonas clade was pretty vocally against it. I think they even had compunctions about the launch, for that matter. There were some of the Odists, though I never took much interest in who. Their names are always so impenetrable. Let’s see…there was Àsgeir Hrafnson, who has always seems like he’s against everything. Such a sour man…”</p>
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<p>“The Jonas clade was pretty vocally against it. I think they even had compunctions about the launch, for that matter. There were some of the Odists, though I never took much interest in who. Their names are always so impenetrable. Let’s see…there was Àsgeir Hrafnson, who has always seemed like he’s against everything. Such a sour man…”</p>
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<p>Brahe continued to list off a few names, and Codrin continued to nod dutifully, but eir mind was elsewhere. The Odists’ opinion on the launch seemed to range from, at best, utterly ecstatic, as Dear’s had been, to, at worst, simply uninterested, to go by what Dear and May Then My Name had said.</p>
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<p>Brahe continued to list off a few names, and Codrin continued to nod dutifully, but eir mind was elsewhere. The Odists’ opinion on the launch seemed to range from, at best, utterly ecstatic, as Dear’s had been, to, at worst, simply uninterested, to go by what Dear and May Then My Name had said.</p>
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<p>Was this another lie from Dear, or had the fox simply not gone looking for names in the debate?</p>
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<p>Was this another lie from Dear, or had the fox simply not gone looking for names in the debate?</p>
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<p>“Obviously, the launch went forward anyway, and both LVs contain Dreamer Modules, so they weren’t successful,” the astronomer was saying. “They didn’t seem interested in paring down the scope to the modules, nor even adding any risk mitigation factors beyond the extra RTG and a set of explosive bolts that could jettison the module if necessary. I think that’s what made me the most suspicious of their initial arguments. If there was risk, why not try to mitigate it further?”</p>
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<p>“Obviously, the launch went forward anyway, and both LVs contain Dreamer Modules, so they weren’t successful,” the astronomer was saying. “They didn’t seem interested in paring down the scope to the modules, nor even adding any risk mitigation factors beyond the extra RTG and a set of explosive bolts that could jettison the module if necessary. I think that’s what made me the most suspicious of their initial arguments. If there was risk, why not try to mitigate it further?”</p>
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<p>“I’m not sure,” Codrin said, mouth dry. “Perhaps it was more of an image thing? As in, adding the module might damage how others viewed the launch.”</p>
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<p>“I’m not sure,” Codrin said, mouth dry. “Perhaps it was more of an image thing? As in, adding the module might damage how others viewed the launch.”</p>
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<p>“Perhaps.” Ey heard Brahe shrug against the moss-grass, then continue. “Anyway, that’s the story. I don’t know if it’ll be of any use to you in your project.’</p>
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<p>“Perhaps.” Ey heard Brahe shrug against the moss-grass, then continue. “Anyway, that’s the story. I don’t know if it’ll be of any use to you in your project.”</p>
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<p>“It might. It already answered most of my other questions, too. The last one I have is that you invested entirely in the LVs. Why?”</p>
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<p>“It might. It already answered most of my other questions, too. The last one I have is that you invested entirely in the LVs. Why?”</p>
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<p>The astronomer was silent for a long time. “As upset as I get that I’m not actually able to see all the stars, even I am not immune to the romance of the idea. Imagine sitting at home, knowing that you could have flung yourself off into space, out among the dangers and excitement, and choosing instead that boring safety? The only benefit would be the combined knowledge of Castor and Pollux arriving at the station at the same time we’ll get it on either one of our LVs, but, well.”</p>
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<p>The astronomer was silent for a long time. “As upset as I get that I’m not actually able to see all the stars, even I am not immune to the romance of the idea. Imagine sitting at home, knowing that you could have flung yourself off into space, out among the dangers and excitement, and choosing instead that boring safety? The only benefit would be the combined knowledge of Castor and Pollux arriving at the station at the same time we’ll get it on either one of our LVs, but, well.”</p>
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<p>Brahe gestured up to the shifting night sky, leaving his words at that.</p>
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<p>Brahe gestured up to the shifting night sky, leaving his words at that.</p>
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<p>Eventually, even Codrin lay back in the grass. Ey knew not for how long. Lay there with Tycho Brahe in all his sadness and happiness and wisdom and romanticism. Lay there, and looked up at the stars.</p>
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<p>Eventually, even Codrin lay back in the grass. Lay there with Tycho Brahe in all his sadness and happiness and wisdom and romanticism. Lay there, and looked up at the stars. Ey knew not for how long.</p>
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<h1 id="douglas-hadje-2325">Douglas Hadje — 2325</h1>
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<p><strong>May Then My Name Die With Me:</strong> I am surprised to see you online, Douglas!</p>
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<p><strong>May Then My Name Die With Me:</strong> I am surprised to see you online, Douglas!</p>
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<p><strong>Douglas Hadje:</strong> Well, remember how I said my workload as launch director would be starting to decrease after launch?</p>
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<p><strong>Douglas Hadje:</strong> Remember how I said my workload as launch director would be starting to decrease after launch?</p>
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<p><strong>Douglas:</strong> Well, now I’m only working a few days at a time, and most of that is writing up documentation and collating reports for the launch commission. Soon, even that will disappear, and I suspect I’ll be out of a job unless I decide to take on another position.</p>
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<p><strong>Douglas:</strong> Well, now I’m only working a few days at a time, and most of that is writing up documentation and collating reports for the launch commission. Soon, even that will disappear, and I suspect I’ll be out of a job unless I decide to take on another position.</p>
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<p><strong>May Then My Name:</strong> Do you think that you will?</p>
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<p><strong>May Then My Name:</strong> Do you think that you will?</p>
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<p><strong>Douglas:</strong> I don’t know. Maybe? Probably. Once I’m out of a job, my reason to be here is kind of gone, and I imagine whatever good will I’ve built up will start to run out and they won’t let me stay on the station. It’s mostly self sufficient, but resources are limited and I’m sure there’s someone who would like to take my spot.</p>
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<p><strong>Douglas:</strong> I don’t know. Maybe? Probably. Once I’m out of a job, my reason to be here is kind of gone, and I imagine whatever good will I’ve built up will start to run out and they won’t let me stay on the station. It’s mostly self sufficient, but resources are limited and I’m sure there’s someone who would like to take my spot.</p>
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<p><strong>Douglas:</strong> True. Well, where do you want to start?</p>
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<p><strong>Douglas:</strong> True. Well, where do you want to start?</p>
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<p><strong>Ioan:</strong> How about you start most recently, actually, and then work your way backwards.</p>
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<p><strong>Ioan:</strong> How about you start most recently, actually, and then work your way backwards.</p>
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<p><strong>Douglas:</strong> Alright.</p>
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<p><strong>Douglas:</strong> Alright.</p>
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<p><strong>Douglas:</strong> There was one last spate of protesting right before the launch. I saw some of the videos from planet-side, and a lot of it was just talking-heads discussing the fact that some had tried to shut down portions of the net, and even tried to take down one of the Ansible stations. Most of it was much of the same stuff we saw during the planning phase. I guess it kind of broke down into three complaints:</p>
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<p><strong>Douglas:</strong> There was one last spate of protesting right before the launch. I saw some of the videos from planet-side, and a lot of it was just talking-heads discussing the fact that some had tried to shut down portions of the net, and even tried to take down one of the Ansible stations. Most of it was the same stuff we saw during the planning phase. I guess it kind of broke down into three complaints:</p>
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<p><strong>Douglas:</strong> 1. Expenses — this one was diminished toward the end, as there’s not really a whole lot of expense required in popping some explosive bolts to set the launches flying, and all the material used out here was from scavenged Trojan asteroids. The protests that we saw around this were mostly griping about how much had already been spent. “Think of how much could have gone to deacidifying projects, etc etc”</p>
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<p><strong>Douglas:</strong> 1. Expenses — this one was diminished toward the end, as there’s not really a whole lot of expense required in popping some explosive bolts to set the launches flying, and all the material used out here was from scavenged Trojan asteroids. The protests that we saw around this were mostly griping about how much had already been spent. “Think of how much could have gone to deacidifying projects, etc etc”</p>
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<p><strong>Douglas:</strong> 2. Brain/workforce drain — This is a perennial topic with the system. All those smart minds out there focusing on pie-in-the-sky dreams instead of ‘real problems’ back there on Earth. What they imagine someone with a masters in spaceflight or astronomy or whatever can do back on Earth to better an overheated dustball is beyond me.</p>
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<p><strong>Douglas:</strong> 2. Brain/workforce drain — This is a perennial topic with the system. All those smart minds out there focusing on pie-in-the-sky dreams instead of ‘real problems’ back there on Earth. What they imagine someone with a masters in spaceflight or astronomy or whatever can do back on Earth to better an overheated dustball is beyond me.</p>
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<p><strong>Douglas:</strong> 3. Earth vs space sentiments — This one is probably the most common, and also the hardest to explain. Even I don’t totally understand it. I think I mentioned before that, the harder things get, the less time and energy you have to focus on those pie-in-the-sky ideas. You’re too busy scraping by or trying not to burn up or focus on growing soybeans or whatever, you don’t have much time to do anything but dream about space and watch movies in your hour before bed or however your day looks.</p>
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<p><strong>Douglas:</strong> You have to remember that my opinion of the place is colored by the fact that I lived where I did with the family that I did while the city was in a state of decline, so.</p>
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<p><strong>Douglas:</strong> You have to remember that my opinion of the place is colored by the fact that I lived where I did with the family that I did while the city was in a state of decline, so.</p>
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<p><strong>Douglas:</strong> Anyway, a lot of these people seemed to be just plain angry that there were people doing things that were not for helping improve the general condition of life. There’s still six or seven billion people down there, when you mesh birth rates with death and upload rates, and a good chunk of those people have no wish to upload, so they’re stuck in a life that’s uncomfortable enough to make them angry at those who have what feels like (and might as well be) unlimited potential, as they imagine the System to be.</p>
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<p><strong>Douglas:</strong> Does that make sense?</p>
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<p><strong>Douglas:</strong> Does that make sense?</p>
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