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 <li class="rejected"> MERGED ABOVE <!--<a href="remote/codrin/002.html">Codrin Bălan#Emissary</a> --- starts out simply recording, Tycho too overwhelmed to speak, notices Turun Ko, discusses roles during a lull, TN frowns--></li>
 <li class="done2"> <a href="remote/tycho/001.html">Tycho Brahe#Emissary</a> &mdash; overwhelmed at meeting them all, introductions go around, working out specialties and such, gets a bit excited talking about astronomy and how much there is to learn, TN frowns, though she&rsquo;s still struggling b/c lost-alike sensations Tycho learns about time from Turun Ka and that this is how they managed to work fast: modifying time rather than forking. They explain forking and merging in turn, compare with Artante&rsquo;s experience - 2195</li>
 <li class="rejected"> MERGED ABOVE <!--<a href="local/tycho/008.html">Tycho Brahe#Artemis</a> --- overwhelmed at meeting them all, introductions go around, working out specialties and such, gets a bit excited talking about astronomy and how much there is to learn, TN frowns, though she's still struggling b/c lost-alike sensations--></li>
-<li class="done0"> <a href="remote/codrin/003.html">Codrin Bălan#Emissary</a> &mdash; Exchanges notes with Codrin#Artemis, hinting at swap with WAQ/AWNH</li>
+<li class="done2"> <a href="remote/codrin/003.html">Codrin Bălan#Emissary</a> &mdash; Exchanges notes with Codrin#Artemis, hinting at swap with WAQ/AWNH - 2192</li>
 <li class="done2"> <a href="interlude/002.html">Interlude</a> &mdash; Ioan and May (who indeed have a cry) discuss how it feels to know that the talks are taking place and may be over by the time they hear about it - 3319</li>
 <li class="done0"> <a href="local/tycho/009.html">Tycho Brahe#Artemis</a> &mdash; Talks with Sarah Genet about what the two parties are learning and how its impacting his view of the System and Artemis</li>
 <li class="done0"> <a href="remote/tycho/002.html">Tycho Brahe#Emissary</a> &mdash; Watches TN try to have a discussion with Turun Ka regarding history, and it is an exercise in mutual misunderstanding, starting to feel out of his league with #Artemis being about social aspects</li>
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 <li class="done1"> Conclusion - DMZ expands, several upload to Artemis<ul>
-<li class="done0"> <a href="local/tycho/014.html">Tycho Brahe</a> &mdash; Fresh out of talks, merges back with #tracker in sim, looks up at the sky, new big feelings, TN shows up w/champagne. She&rsquo;s kind of sad, but guess it went okay, says she&rsquo;s trying to be earnest about just wanting to have something to celebrate with someone else, but isn&rsquo;t sure she knows how anymore. Cracks showing as growth collides with eternal memory.</li>
+<li class="done1"> <a href="local/tycho/014.html">Tycho Brahe</a> &mdash; Fresh out of talks, merges back with #tracker in sim, looks up at the sky, new big feelings, TN shows up w/champagne. She&rsquo;s kind of sad, but guess it went okay, says she&rsquo;s trying to be earnest about just wanting to have something to celebrate with someone else, but isn&rsquo;t sure she knows how anymore. Cracks showing as growth collides with eternal memory.</li>
 <li class="done1"> <a href="local/codrin/012.html">Codrin Bălan</a> &mdash; Talks with Sarah back at home about what things will look like going forward (expand DMZ to idk like 1/3 system size, allow Artemisians to join, allow any to join Artemis as fifthrace). After Sarah leaves, goes for a walk with Dear, mentions what happened with AWNH and TN</li>
 <li class="done0"> <a href="local/tycho/015.html">Tycho Brahe</a> &mdash; The DMZ expands, sets up a border crossing of sorts, starts to think about what to do, about how there&rsquo;s this idea that he invest fully that just showed up, fully formed, in his head</li>
 <li class="done0"> <a href="local/codrin/013.html">Codrin Bălan</a> &mdash; Convinces Dear and partner to join em in both DMZ (Do they stay? Maybe Codrin is so giddy ey doesn&rsquo;t even care if they do) - Will ey write a history? No, that&rsquo;s for Genet, ey&rsquo;s done. Ey might become a librarian!!!! A solution to boredom? Boredom finally a problem?</li>

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 <p>Sarah: shocked, startled, curious.</p>
 <p>Answers Will Not Help: mid-shout, a splash of black fur creeping up over her cheek, a ghost of a muzzle before her face.</p>
 <p>&ldquo;What the hell?&rdquo; ey repeated.</p>
-<p>&ldquo;You are Codrin Bălan?&rdquo;</p>
+<p>&ldquo;You are Codrin Bălan, <em>ka?</em>&ldquo;</p>
 <p>Startled, ey whirled to face the party of Artemisians. One of the firstrace members had stepped forward. Assuming the lineup was similar to their own, ey supposed it must be Turun Ko, the recorder, if Turun Ka as leader was on the end. Its voice was surprisingly mellifluous for a being that seemed to be an artificial construct.</p>
 <p>&ldquo;Y-yes,&rdquo; ey said, shaking er head. &ldquo;What&hellip;is this&hellip;time?&rdquo;</p>
 <p>Turun Ko tilted its chin up in a gesture ey could not understand. &ldquo;Yes. You have departed-slid-away from common time. It is normal-not-unusual for the recorder consciousness-bearing system to detach-accelerate from common time at first. Those such as you and I are primed-eager to observe over time.&rdquo;</p>
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 <p>He looked back toward the door, worry painted on his face, and nodded. &ldquo;I don&rsquo;t think that was Why Ask Questions. That was Answers Will Not Help.&rdquo;</p>
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 <p>Codrin#Emissary</p>
 <p>I am finding myself started by the strangeness of the goings on during this whole venture. I know that you have it worse, such as it is, given the fact that you are having to deal with meeting four alien races as well as experiencing an entirely new system, complete with an entirely new take on reality.</p>
-<p>Still, this is very strange. I&rsquo;m curious to hear what sort of information you are getting from the social and political side of the talks, as I think it will help me form a more coherent picture of the Artemisians so that I may ask better questions when I&rsquo;m so very, very out of my league, here on the science side. I asked True Name about this, and she just shrugged, saying, &ldquo;So long as you do not forget what we are here for in the DMZ, I see no reason to prevent knowledge sharing.</p>
+<p>Still, this remains strange for me. I&rsquo;m curious to hear what sort of information you are getting from the social and political side of the talks, as I think it will help me form a more coherent picture of the Artemisians so that I may ask better questions when I&rsquo;m so very, very out of my league, here on the science side. I asked True Name about this, and she just shrugged, saying, &ldquo;So long as you do not forget what we are here for in the DMZ, I see no reason to prevent knowledge sharing.</p>
 <p>First, here is what we are finding, seen through the eyes of the scientifically inept:</p>
 <ul>
 <li>Iska is quite upset about the lack of &ldquo;time skew&rdquo;, as they call it, and has stated that they refuse the single fork they&rsquo;re permitted in their rest area. They have not elaborated on this, but I find it interesting that some scientific feat that they have accomplished is so thoroughly engrained in their society (remember, secondrace has been on Artemis for nigh on four millennia by now). I know that forking is integral to our society, but it does make me wonder if it has reached that point yet. Dear would be furious without it, of course, but would that sentiment be universal after only 231 years? Are you missing it? Are the other Odists?</li>
@@ -27,8 +27,36 @@
 <li>On that note, everyone seems to have learned our common tongue quite well <em>except</em> Stolon. Don&rsquo;t tell Tycho, but I think the similarities between them run quite deep. Neither of them seem particularly interested in language except inasmuch as it allows them to talk about astronomy better.</li>
 </ul>
 <p>Now, for my questions:</p>
+<ul>
+<li>Given Dear&rsquo;s reactions, how are TN/WAQ taking to this &ldquo;time skew&rdquo;? Not well, I imagine. Dear sounded worried for us (which, I suppose, is its job); are you or any of the other emissaries in danger? TN says she has received a message from her counterpart already, but gave no indication as to its content.</li>
+<li>Tycho is in his element here, but Iska seems relatively out of theirs. I imagine Iska is doing better on their home turf, but is Stolon put out by the relative paucity of scientific conversation as Tycho said he&rsquo;d be?</li>
+<li>How are you all taking to time skew? I&rsquo;d like to know more specifics of the mechanics and social implications so that I can understand Iska&rsquo;s reticence better.</li>
+<li>The Artemisians ask for regular breaks, where they always retreat back to their rest area. Probably five minutes every half hour. When asked, Turun Ko said, &ldquo;Consensus synchronization, planning-strategizing responses,&rdquo; by which I infer that they are used to being able to step aside for conversations to ensure they are all on the same page. Does that hold true there?</li>
+<li>How are you liking it? Other than the inability to fork, I&rsquo;m taken by the relatively prosaic nature of the talks, incomprehensibility aside. Do you like it there?</li>
+</ul>
+<p>Codrin#Assist, pass on my love back home.</p>
+<p>&mdash; Codrin#artemis</p>
+</blockquote>
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+<blockquote>
+<p>Codrin#Artemis</p>
+<p>When I first got your note, I was worried that I&rsquo;d not have time to squeeze in a response, until I remembered the tools at my disposal. This keeps happening over here. I&rsquo;ll find myself feeling rushed to complete something, then remember &ldquo;oh, wait, I&rsquo;ll just move to fast-time, and then I can do whatever I want.&rdquo; I&rsquo;ve even got some writing done during our rests. As such, you&rsquo;ll probably get this seconds after you sent your letter.</p>
+<p>For reasons I&rsquo;ll get into momentarily, talks are going somewhat slower here than I think anyone expected. The Artemisians are incredibly patient with all of us, though, for which we&rsquo;re grateful.</p>
+<p>The reasons for this are almost entirely up to the Odists. True Name and Why Ask Questions are struggling with the time skew, WAQ more so than TN. Michelle quit forty years ago, and since then, I&rsquo;ve not seen the shifting of form that she struggled with.</p>
+<p>WAQ, however, immediately fell back into that. She&rsquo;s hardly spoken at all, and seems to be continually on the verge of getting sick or losing control completely. She seems to be able to either speak or maintain her form but not both, and even then, it comes at a dear price. When outside unison rooms (see below), she has a very hard time remaining in common time. Often, the best she can manage is to stay within ±1 of it.</p>
+<p>TN is also struggling, though to a lesser extent. She is striving to remain as in control as she can, but there will still be the occasional silence as she struggles. During these, she will clench her fists or grit her teeth, and there will be the occasional glimmer of Michelle in there. As such, this has put a damper on our discussion, though, to Dear&rsquo;s worries, no, we don&rsquo;t seem to be in any danger. </p>
+<p>To that end, we&rsquo;ve moved the talks to a unison room. These rooms ensure that everyone within them remains synchronized to the same time skew, though the room itself can skew faster or slower than common time (which, I&rsquo;m assured, is the same as ours, based on similar constants; managing time skew feels much like most System interactions, and common time feels like a pin in a lock clicking into place as you move faster or slower). To that end, the unison room has become TN/WAQ&rsquo;s rest area while the other three of us have our original room. I don&rsquo;t know what to call the opposite of it. Phasic room? They haven&rsquo;t been able to provide an answer because it&rsquo;s just &ldquo;the rest of the world&rdquo; to them.</p>
+<p>As you mention, Iska is somewhat out of their element because of this. They&rsquo;re a skew artist, analogous to Dear&rsquo;s instance artistry. They seem uncomfortable in a unison room, though they remain very polite about it.</p>
+<p>To your question about breaks, you&rsquo;re right that they are used to stepping away to talk about something before providing an answer. Before our shift to the unison room, they would readily shift up to fast time to discuss topics. After about skew +1 (moving twice as fast as common time), sound does not transmit the barriers, so it acts as a cone of silence, in that sense. Tangentially, I&rsquo;ve found that touch also does not transmit after skew ±0.5, probably to prevent injuries.</p>
+<p>Tycho and Stolon are, as you suspected, quite frustrated with the lack of scientific discussion going on. Several times during breaks, they&rsquo;ve shifted to fast time to get as much chatting in as they can. Tycho honestly seems quite taken with Stolon, and I suspect he&rsquo;s found a kindred spirit, though he has expressed some frustration about their lack of mastery over our common tongue. He said that they&rsquo;re both studying during their breaks in order to better converse.</p>
+<p>All in all, though, I quite like it here. It is very different, and I find myself missing my family (and the food!) quite a bit, but honestly, I am also finding that I truly enjoy time skew. Codrin#Assist, don&rsquo;t tell Dear this.</p>
+<p>In terms of knowledge share, you&rsquo;re spot on in much of what you bring up. The firstracers are hard to read, as you say, though you can add &lsquo;rocking head side to side = amusement&rsquo; to your list. You don&rsquo;t mention much about Iska, but they&rsquo;re really quite nice after one gets past the clipped nature of their speech. I like them plenty. I&rsquo;ve already spoken plenty about Stolon.</p>
+<p>Artante is quite curious. Her mannerisms are incredibly familiar, which I originally chalked up to the similarity in species, but it&rsquo;s come to light during discussions that she has picked up an obsession with the media that was embedded in the Dreamer Module broadcast. She&rsquo;s watched all of the videos several times over (more than seventy hours worth!) and listened to all of the audio enough to know how things sound. (Iska&rsquo;s speech is clipped, I&rsquo;ve mentioned, and occasionally misses intonation around questions/commas <em>qua</em> pauses/etc., and the firstracers&rsquo; melodious speech often sounds more like singing than speaking.) She and Sarah have had much to talk about, though both leaders nudge them often back to sociology and psychology as it relates to political systems, rather than therapeutic applications of forking or whatever.</p>
+<p>TN here struggles with the 1racers lack of expression, though I had been chalking much of that up to her struggles with skew until you mentioned it. There have been a few misses in the conversation, where the two leaders will wind down a conversational blind alley and have to back up to the point where they turned the wrong corner. So patient is Turun Ka that this has been frustrating for us, as it&rsquo;s difficult to tear down the assumptions that we&rsquo;ve built up in the interim. Now that I say that, though, perhaps it is also frustrating for it, too, we just can&rsquo;t see it.</p>
+<p>Anyway, I should head back to common time and catch up with Sarah before we head back to it. I want to make sure we talk more about the reasons why they picked &lsquo;recorder&rsquo; as a required profession for this meeting. If it&rsquo;s about telling stories, I&rsquo;m all for it.</p>
+<p>Codrin#Assist, pass on my love. Can you also check my work with Dear? I think I remember that Why Ask Questions Here At The End Of All Things was initially forked to shape sentiment sys-side during Secession, and that Why Ask Questions When The Answers Will Not Help was forked to shape sentiment outside the System. Is this correct? I&rsquo;ve only met the two of them recently, so I&rsquo;m unsure how that plays out in their social interactions.</p>
+<p>Thanks for acting as go-between for us. It&rsquo;d be nice to be able to send a message directly to #Artemis, but alas, DMZ.</p>
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-<p>Exchanges notes with Codrin#Artemis, hinting at swap with WAQ/AWNH</p>
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