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<li class="done4"> <a href="launch/launch/Codrin-pollux/003.html">Launch: launch-side: Codrin#Pollux</a> - interviews Zeke/Ezekiel, who has gone a bit sideways, now a prophet, having a hard time reconciling two launches/diverging futures, points Codrin towards True Name as something sinister - 2212 - Expand?</li>
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<li class="done4"> <a href="secession/phys/Yared/005.html">Secession: phys-side; Yared</a> - discusses secession with True Name/Jonas despite the fact that he isn’t supposed to, gets help drafting the post with suggested changes from Demma - 2852</li>
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<li class="done4"> <a href="launch/launch/Codrin-castor/004.html">Launch: launch-side: Codrin#Castor</a> - Distracted, interviews depressed astronomer who knows this is as close as he’ll ever get, but studies all the same through text, learn more about Dreamer Module (phys-side idea that got past resistance sys-side, implied Jonas/True Name) - 3680</li>
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<li class="done3"> <a href="launch/phys/Douglas/006.html">Launch: phys-side: Douglas</a> - Talks with May about launch-era political machinations from phys-side - 2140</li>
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<li class="done4"> <a href="launch/phys/Douglas/006.html">Launch: phys-side: Douglas</a> - Talks with May about launch-era political machinations from phys-side - 2140</li>
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<li class="done3"> <a href="secession/sys/True-Name/003.html">Secession: sys-side: True Name</a> - Starts to think of phys/sys dichotomy in political terms, forks on the sly (only Jonas knows), so that forks can handle both, leaving her as figurehead who appears to know all - 2765</li>
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<li class="done3"> <a href="launch/launch/Codrin-pollux/004.html">Launch: launch-side: Codrin#Pollux</a> - talks with Dear about secession and the mood before and after in general, but also w/in clade, Dear hints that Praiseworthy started shaping the history even before secession and the art of propaganda - 2265</li>
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<li class="done3"> <a href="launch/sys/Ioan/006.html">Launch: sys-side: Ioan</a> - Ioan and May share growing concerns from LV messages - 2034 (probably needs work)</li>
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<p><strong>Douglas:</strong> Does that make sense?</p>
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<p><strong>Ioan:</strong> I think so. You’ve got people who are unhappy, and part of that unhappiness is the fact that others are happy.</p>
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<p><strong>Douglas:</strong> More than that. They’re unhappy, and part of that is that those others are not helping to make life better for them. It’s usually not even making life better for humanity, but for them specifically, for the world as they specifically view it.</p>
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<p><strong>Ioan:</strong> Alright. Was there any sentiment that they were being abandoned by those who left on the launches?</p>
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<p><strong>Ioan:</strong> Was there any sentiment that they were being abandoned by those who left on the launches?</p>
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<p><strong>Douglas:</strong> Yes and no. You have to understand that most people still struggle to think of the uploads as human. Thus calling them ‘uploads’, even, rather than ‘uploaded personalities’ or whatever. It’s not just shorthand, it’s a way of separating them into some other idea. They aren’t people, anymore, they’re programs, in their minds.</p>
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<p><strong>May Then My Name:</strong> There has always been this argument of speciation, and the instinct to make us the other continues apace, I see.</p>
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<p><strong>Douglas:</strong> I’ll take your word for it. It’s difficult to persuade the average person that those in the System are still human, or if not human, then at least still people. They’re not the types to listen to all the arguments for why we know that you’re still you after you upload. They duck-type you into being programs.</p>
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<p><strong>Douglas:</strong> Is that what it means? It’s just come to mean a false-equivalency of any kind. Few enough ducks, anymore.</p>
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<p><strong>Ioan:</strong> I only learned it from an assignment talking with some perisystem specialists.</p>
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<p><strong>Douglas:</strong> I guess it doesn’t surprise me that you have those inside as well as outside. Sometimes, I get these little jolts about how little I actually know about the System, compared to how much I know about the launch.</p>
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<p><strong>May Then My Name:</strong> It does not help that many of us — not just me — are obtuse on purpose.</p>
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<p><strong>Douglas:</strong> You said there was some grumbling sys-side, as well, right?”</p>
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<p><strong>Ioan:</strong> Yes, though I don’t totally understand it. Some of it sounds like that like, “Why bother? We’ve got a good life here, and there’s no reason to be putting that in any kind of danger just to throw copies of us out at the stars.” The bits that I mentioned earlier, however, have more to do with the Dreamer Modules than the launch itself, though.</p>
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<p><strong>Douglas:</strong> Oh? There was a little bit of chatter about those here, but I didn’t pay a whole lot of attention to it.</p>
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<p><strong>May Then My Name:</strong> We will, yes, but there is time. For now, we are curious about the macro-scale political landscape before, during, and after launch.</p>
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<p><strong>Douglas:</strong> Alright. That’ll give me some time to remember more about what happened with them.</p>
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<p><strong>Douglas:</strong> Large scale, hmm.</p>
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<p><strong>Douglas:</strong> Well, most of the government side goes way over my head. There was always a bit of waffling, even on the majority coalition side, but whenever sentiment in a member party of the majority drifted away from the launch, they never seemed to last all that long in power.</p>
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<p><strong>Douglas:</strong> Well, most of the government side goes way over my head. In the WF, there was always a bit of waffling, even on the majority coalition side, but whenever sentiment in a member party of the majority drifted away from the launch, they never seemed to last all that long in power.</p>
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<p><strong>Douglas:</strong> I talked about protests and sentiments before, but for the most part, folks were either on board, didn’t care, or didn’t know about the launch. It was just another satellite in their eyes, or some deep space probe.</p>
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<p><strong>Douglas:</strong> Early on was when it was talked about most. There wasn’t a whole lot of questions asked about whether or not the launch would happen, weirdly. I remember it just kind of popping up in the news as a foregone conclusion. “The launch was happening, how’s everyone feeling about that?”</p>
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<p><strong>Douglas:</strong> I think some were pretty unhappy with that, at first. Like, where did this decision even come from? Obviously, the System is its own authority and can do whatever it wants, but someone has to manage the phys-side work, so who, phys-side, actually had those conversations? There were a few gestures at investigation, but they basically went nowhere. Mostly, though, people were confused. Some people get upset when they’re confused, but for the rest, it just left them shaking their heads. It was mostly the politicians who were dealing with it after that initial shock.</p>
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<p><strong>Douglas:</strong> I think some were pretty unhappy with that, at first. Like, where did this decision even come from? Obviously, the System is its own authority and can do whatever it wants, but someone has to manage the phys-side work, so who, phys-side, actually had those conversations? There were a few gestures at investigation, but they fizzled out. Mostly, people were just confused. Some people get upset when they’re confused, but for the rest, it just left them shaking their heads. It was the politicians who were dealing with it after that initial shock.</p>
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<p><strong>Douglas:</strong> Building the launches wasn’t too expensive, honestly, because almost all of that was done in an automated fashion here on the station. That said, retrofitting the station for the launch struts, building the launch arms, expanding the production sector…all that took time, energy, and money. I’m surprised it went as smoothly as it did, despite all the grumbling.</p>
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<p><strong>Ioan:</strong> So it just popped up on the scene, then interest waned, then ramped up before the launch, then dropped? Like an ‘M’ shape?</p>
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<p><strong>Douglas:</strong> I suppose so, yeah. After the launch happened, there was nothing that could be done, so everyone lost interest or lost steam in their protests.</p>
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