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 <li class="done0"> Release should take the form of an ARG similar to the original Qoheleth.</li>
 <li class="done0"> The creators of the system tried to come up with better communication than just text, and could when just one was in the system via dream-reading scans, but when multiple dreamers interacted, it quickly lost focus. Can communicate at any time via text through perisystem or view one individual&rsquo;s dream if they fork into a reserved spot in the perisystem(though that instance can&rsquo;t merge back, just as waiting room instances can&rsquo;t merge), so it&rsquo;s only really good for presentations</li>
 <li class="done0"> Difference between conservatives and liberals is that the conservatives play with need on a very grand scale, liberals on a very small/individual scale. Ioan struggles with May after learning a lot of this about the Clade, because even if she&rsquo;s earnestly in love with em, it&rsquo;s like learning your inlaws are illuminati. Ey comes acround because a) she explains need for control as trauma response, and b) tells myth in progress, about how the gods created the world in an attempt to shape it to their will, but instead became impersonal forces in the face of absolute independence </li>
-<li class="done0"> Quote:</li>
+<li class="done0"> Quote: <em>She stood from her chair and walked up to where ey remained stubbornly seated. &ldquo;If you do not wish to be unhappy with the answers to difficult questions, Ioan,&rdquo; she said, tousling eir hair. &ldquo;Then you do not need to ask them.&rdquo;</em> / <em>She smiled down to em, and in that smaile was kindness, and in that kindness was a hatred ey could not fathom, and then she quit.</em></li>
+<li class="done0"> Dear says in Qoheleth that it uploaded in the 2130s after the L5 station had been set up, have to address this incongruence (either shift dates, or give it a reason to lie; probably the latter, to downplay stuff to one it does not trust)</li>
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-<p>She stood from her chair and walked up to where ey remained stubbornly seated. &ldquo;If you do not wish to be unhappy with the answers to difficult questions, Ioan,&rdquo; she said, tousling eir hair. &ldquo;Then you do not need to ask them.&rdquo;</p>
-<p>She smiled down to em, and in that smaile was kindness, and in that kindness was a hatred ey could not fathom, and then she quit.</p>
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 <p>When one is uploaded, the only thing that is left behind is the body, and that in pieces. It is an uncomfortable fact of the process, but unavoidable. The intellect, the emotions, and all that makes a person an individual are sent to that system in the Sino-Russian Bloc and then they become a part of the system. We do not see what they see, and cannot, but we do talk to them. They are quite the talkative bunch, and they describe all sorts of wonders. The system is much like our sims but far, far more real, realer than we could ever imagine. It is, I&rsquo;m told, quite literally a dream world.</p>
 <p>All of this &mdash; the chatter from the System, the continuity of lives from here to there, the vibrancy of the place &mdash; points to a collection of real, actual people. They may not have the bodies, but they are no less real, living, feeling, laughing, crying, joyful beings, and they deserve the recognition of their reality, their individuality.</p>
 <p>I hear many arguments against their individual rights:</p>
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-<li>&ldquo;Because we cannot interbreed with them, they are a different species, and thus are not guaranteed the same rights.&rdquo;</li>
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-<p>This is a crass and patently ridiculous idea. Of <em>course</em> we cannot interbreed, The chances of us interbreeding with a moth are more likely, as at least a moth has a body! However, if we see that their lives in the System are continuous progressions from the lives they lived here and they had inalienable rights here, then there must also be continuity of rights. Whether or not we can interbreed is nothing but a distraction.
-* &ldquo;They should need to pay for the power requirements for running their system.&rdquo;</p>
+<p><em>&ldquo;Because we cannot interbreed with them, they are a different species, and thus are not guaranteed the same rights.&rdquo;</em></p>
+<p>This is a crass and patently ridiculous idea. Of <em>course</em> we cannot interbreed, The chances of us interbreeding with a moth are more likely, as at least a moth has a body! However, if we see that their lives in the System are continuous progressions from the lives they lived here and they had inalienable rights here, then there must also be continuity of rights. Whether or not we can interbreed is nothing but a distraction.</p>
+<p><em>&ldquo;They should need to pay for the power requirements for running their system.&rdquo;</em></p>
 <p>This argument carries weight when it is viewed from a logical point of view. Running the System <em>does</em> cost money, and even if they have little need for money in there as they go about their day-to-day lives, perhaps they ought to find a way to help subsidize that ability. I can think of a dozen ways off the top of my head even while writing this.</p>
-<p>However, for the argument to be used as a reason that they must not have individual rights &mdash; those of freedom, happiness, and access to necessities &mdash; borders on the incomprehensible. When an individual is out of a job outside of the System, we do not simply strip away their rights on the spot! We must have the right conversation, here.
-* &ldquo;If they are essentially expert systems running on a computer, they should be treated as such and used to run expert systems out here.&rdquo;</p>
+<p>However, for the argument to be used as a reason that they must not have individual rights &mdash; those of freedom, happiness, and access to necessities &mdash; borders on the incomprehensible. When an individual is out of a job outside of the System, we do not simply strip away their rights on the spot! We must have the right conversation, here.</p>
+<p><em>&ldquo;If they are essentially expert systems running on a computer, they should be treated as such and used to run expert systems out here.&rdquo;</em></p>
 <p>This is it, here. This is the crux of almost all of the myriad arguments that I&rsquo;ve heard. This is the ultimate pillar of cynicism that everyone&rsquo;s inner sociopath leans against. This is the bit that says: if I cannot see it, it isn&rsquo;t worth the scantest thought. This is the bit that says: every individual must serve a tangible use in the world in order to exist. This is the bit that says: I deserve this because I am also a cog in this horrendous machine.</p>
 <p>Humanity is, as ever, a race of cynics-at-heart. Yet this approaches such a low as to turn the stomach. You would afford dogs and cats greater rights than those who we know for a fact can think and talk and feel and know. We know this because they <em>are</em> us.</p>
 <p>I have been talking with two representatives of the Council of Eight, the leadership within the System, and on this we agree. They are alive, and because they are alive, they deserve the rights guaranteed those who are alive. They are individual, and so those rights must be individual. They can feel happiness, they know what it means to be free, and they are completely dependent on this one necessity, and so those rights afforded us must be granted them.</p>
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 <p>At some unseen signal, the car door was opened from the outside. The meeting, it seemed, was at an end, and Yared was back on the street, back in the brightness and heat, watching the car disappear around a corner.</p>
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